Written proof of my update settings

By GeneralX on Thursday 8 October 2015 17:41 - Comments (9)
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Today it happened. The thing that I knew that would come. Windows 7 kindly changed my settings for me and unhid KB3035583, KB2952664 and KB3083710. Furthermore, I was pretty sure I had set Windows Update to "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them", but suddenly it got set to "Download updates but let me choose whether to install them".

'Why does this matter?', one might ask. That indicates that 'one' is not familiar with the KB numbers of these updates. These updates are the dreaded ones with vague descriptions that make the Windows 10 Upgrade pop-up pop up. KB3035583 is an especially bad one because it is automatically installed if you are unlucky: its importance is listed on some PCs as 'Recommended' and 'Recommended' updates can be treated as 'Important' if one was silly enough to leave that setting enabled. Apparently, I am unlucky and have been silly. And, as it turns out, I am no longer the supreme ruler of my own PC.

'Okay, so what? Did you write this post just to tell us about your problems?', one might reply. Well, no. This post has 2 goals but bothering people with my problems was not one of them. That is more of a side effect.
Goal #1 is to make sure I am not crazy. I was 99.9% sure about my update settings, but this post will serve as written proof of my settings. I want to be asked before anything gets downloaded and have adjusted the settings accordingly. The second goal is to make a quick list of updates that I will never install on my main PC:

KB2952664 - "Makes improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows." Whatever that means, I do not need it for I will not be upgrading.
KB2990214 - Labelled as 'Important', but for reasons unknown. It is an 'update that supports you to upgrade to a later version of Windows' and supposedly does some other things that Windows will not elaborate on. I have not been offered this upgrade but I do not want it anymore.
UPDATE: KB2990214 has been superseded by KB3050265
KB3021917 - Should be checking for compatibility issues (EDIT: as in, it should be checking compatibility of W10 with the machine). Fails miserably, my main PC is incompatible but it does not detect that fact (probably because it is only incompatible due to AMD's Crossfire and Eyefinity).
KB3035583 - The big bad wolf.

EDIT 16-10-2015:
The rabbit hole goes deeper. This was posted today on the Tweakers frontpage. Not only does Windows automatically change your update settings, it then proceeds to install a new OS on your machine without asking for permission. If that does not qualify as invasive, I do not know what would. Maybe, if the compatibility test was failproof, I could accept this as a 'regular update', but this can pretty much break a setup. Fortunately, this was just an accident. An honest mistake. O-)

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Comments


By Tweakers user i-chat, Thursday 8 October 2015 18:28

in other words your are one of those thinking to be a supreme ruler of your own pc your lan, regardless of anything including the rest of the internet once your pc starts spamming random inboxes with h0w 2 improve your P3N15 size with NEW and beter V14GR4 cause hey.... you probably also just dont need a frigging anti virus solution cause of the all new and improved 'save and sane browsing tm' witch obviously has flaws by design.

but hey for corporate use your still able to delay upgrades to win10 for compat testing and other reasons, but for consumers, they should have enforced upgrades even stickter than they do... the rist is just to high that people will be staying with win7 just like they do with xp, witch hadn't had security patches for over a year now...

By Tweakers user GeneralX, Thursday 8 October 2015 18:55

i-chat wrote on Thursday 08 October 2015 @ 18:28:
in other words your are one of those thinking to be a supreme ruler of your own pc your lan, regardless of anything including the rest of the internet once your pc starts spamming random inboxes with h0w 2 improve your P3N15 size with NEW and beter V14GR4 cause hey.... you probably also just dont need a frigging anti virus solution cause of the all new and improved 'save and sane browsing tm' witch obviously has flaws by design.

but hey for corporate use your still able to delay upgrades to win10 for compat testing and other reasons, but for consumers, they should have enforced upgrades even stickter than they do... the rist is just to high that people will be staying with win7 just like they do with xp, witch hadn't had security patches for over a year now...
Not sure if troll... Did it occur to you that maybe, W10 does not work well with Eyefinity and Crossfire when running games? Did it occur to you that if one cannot upgrade, screen-wide (as in: 3 monitor-wide) pop-ups can be annoying as hell, especially since they force you out of the current window. Did it occur to you that giving up 6 GBs of vauable SSD space is a bit too much too ask? Did it occur to you that maybe, consumers also need to do 'compat testing' and if there is none, it should be possible to NOT upgrade AND not be annoyed? Oh and for the record, W7 still gets security patches and I manually check whether any updates are available that did not get pushed. Also, are you suggesting my PC is not mine to do with as I please (within legat limits, of course)?
Are you suggesting that safe and sane browsing is not a good thing? Also, I don't run local email clients, that's a bit 2000-and-late.

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By Tweakers user i-chat, Friday 9 October 2015 08:01

as long as you stay off the internet you can do watever you godforgivingly please but once you get connected you become liable against all other people on that network so no, you can not do what you goddamn please with your pc because once you start spamming the internet, either intentionally or non-intentioally you are an irrisponsible ass.

and i for one am verry happy that mircrosoft finaly realised this and took mesures to prevent or just sutch bad behaviour, even if by doing this, those verry fucking few get hindered in some slight way....

next up is a penallty for sending spam if your computer was not properly protected, and/or up to date,

By Tweakers user i-chat, Friday 9 October 2015 08:03

i-chat wrote on Friday 09 October 2015 @ 08:01:
as long as you stay off the internet you can do watever you godforgivingly please but once you get connected you become liable against all other people on that network so no, you can not do what you goddamn please with your pc because once you start spamming the internet, either intentionally or non-intentioally you are an irrisponsible ass.

and i for one am verry happy that mircrosoft finaly realised this and took mesures to prevent or just sutch bad behaviour, even if by doing this, those verry fucking few get hindered in some slight way....

next up is a penallty for sending spam if your computer was not properly protected, and/or up to date, - if you drive a car without a license your screwed, why are pc's any diferent.. and yes real harm can come from being hacked. pictures can bestolen good names can be violated and mutch mutch more

By Tweakers user MtC, Friday 9 October 2015 18:48

@i-chat:
MS provides a crappy os and the one using it is liable when it gets abused? And instead of patching it they enforce an update that isn't guaranteed to be compatible?
I'd want to see the reactions if this was OS X or any Linux distro.

By Tweakers user brain75, Monday 12 October 2015 07:13

I expect i-chat is just trolling here.

Your base-line is that Microsoft is secretly pushing Windows 10 to your Windows 7-system (the 6gb download) and that you kinda hate that them for that. You're not the only one: I remember reading somewhere that some European instution wants to look at that way of working. Hiding the update is not very nice, downloading 6 gb when some customers still have a download-limit is.....well...some say criminal?

By Tweakers user Canule, Monday 12 October 2015 11:46

"Your base-line is that Microsoft is secretly pushing Windows 10 to your Windows 7-system"
I doubt it.
http://wccftech.com/intel...tallation-platform-specs/
Just like the security feature UEFI isn't a way to play monopoly with.


By Tweakers user brain75, Monday 12 October 2015 16:37

'I doubt it.
http://wccftech.com/intel...tallation-platform-specs/
Just like the security feature UEFI isn't a way to play monopoly with'

Very informative article if your using newer systems. But still no excuse for MS for pushing 6Gb of data without asking politely if you want Windows 10 or not.

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